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I need some scooter buying advice

Postby Bebeman » Sat Feb 17, 2018 17:03 17

Hello all!
I`m about to pull the trigger on the purchase of a scooter...I`'ve had a Forza 300, but that's the extent of my scooter knowledge.
The Forza was a bit slow and unstable on the highway for me (I'm 6' 3" @ 240lbs) . The fit was ok, but not great. I'm a 4 season bike guy (either bicycle or motorcycle). My current ride is a BMW f800...nice bike, but I'm slowly losing the full use of my clutch hand...I need an automatic transmission...Ive had a Honda nc700 dct...that was ok, but I gave that away to one of my kids. I'm looking at the 2018 Xmax 300, or a 2018 Burg 400 (the Burg is about $2500 more). Will the Xmax be stable on the highway @ 80-85mph?
I'm not a big burg fan (I've really don't know why to be honest). The Tmax 530 isn't for sale in California, and the older Tmax's don't clear my knees (nearly dropped one this morning). The BMW C650 is a bit out of my range $$$. Any wisdom from the forum? .
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Re: I need some scooter buying advice

Postby tonymarchman » Sat Feb 17, 2018 23:44 23

Hello Bebeman and welcome to the forum.

for a fella your size I would suggest a 650 Burgman. They have great legroom and very stable at highway speeds. The 400's will go that fast but are pretty much topped out at 85 mph. There are many used ones out there. Around 07 they made some improvements so I would stay away from anything older that that. Americans typically do not do high mileage on their bikes so I would look for a deal on a "garage queen".
The newer ones do have heated seats if that is important. Let us know what you decide, and post some pics of your new scoot.
"scooterfinds.com" is very helpful.
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Re: I need some scooter buying advice

Postby gruntled » Sun Feb 18, 2018 0:54 00

The problem with the 650 Bergman is that it will cost about the same as the BMW 650. Don't know why all the Bergmans are so expensive except maybe the whatchamacallit breaking system. The 400 is also priced out of sight as far as I'm concerned. I'm looking for a 300cc scooter if I can get a good price. Not in a big hurry but I don't want to put any more money in my Majesty now that it is 13 years & 94,000 miles old. I kinda hope to get to 100,000 by Sept when it's the time for insurance, license & time to get a new belt. If so then I intend to give it away to some charity. If I buy another scooter before then I will use the Majesty to keep from putting too many miles on the new one too fast.
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Re: I need some scooter buying advice

Postby Bebeman » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:51 03

Thanks Tony and Grunt...The Burg 400 could work.. @ 85 mph on the Forza, I'd wet my pants.....the 2018 is crazy stupid $$ , but I see some 2016s available for much less...little concerned about the 14" vs the 15" front wheel on the 2018. I did see a couple of used 650 Burgs....Im interested for sure.
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Re: I need some scooter buying advice

Postby minimac » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:04 12

Consider looking at the Kymco x-citing 400. It's a much better scooter than even the new Burgman 400, and is $2500 less. And there's a two year warranty. The Kymco has a much better suspension design, Is quicker, stable, and is available in real colors.
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Re: I need some scooter buying advice

Postby Umbrianissimo » Mon Feb 19, 2018 17:00 17

The 300 - 400 cc scooter range is filling out a bit, finally, and the Japanese bikes are excellent. I would also suggest you look at the Piaggio BV350. I had one before the TMax and it is a very good all-round bike. I don't know how it compares to the Burger or XMax or Forza, either in power or stability or in fit for you. A bit less body work, but lots of storage, and very well built and designed. A modern Italian aesthetic, rather than traditional maxi or traditional scoot. But they have very few problems and are reasonable on the highway. The modern vespa forum has quite a few owners there. BTW I'm 6' & 200 lbs, and the BV was excellent for me. Anyhow, just wanted to mention it as another possible option. If I sold my TMax, I'd very likely go back to a BV 350.
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Re: I need some scooter buying advice

Postby Bebeman » Mon Feb 19, 2018 21:02 21

All great suggestions...thank you all sooooo much. Thursday I drive a rental car one way to SoCal (nearly 400 miles from my home near Santa Cruz).... there's 2013 Burg 650 with my name it.... gonna ride that girlie home!
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Re: I need some scooter buying advice

Postby gruntled » Sun Feb 25, 2018 16:40 16

I test rode a Kymco 250 & a 500 quite a few years ago & was impressed by both. The problem with those & the Italian scooters is the scarcity of dealers.
You might have a problem getting parts, warranty work & just having someone to work on them.
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Re: I need some scooter buying advice

Postby alloo » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:40 12

gruntled wrote:I test rode a Kymco 250 & a 500 quite a few years ago & was impressed by both. The problem with those & the Italian scooters is the scarcity of dealers.
You might have a problem getting parts, warranty work & just having someone to work on them.


KYMCO has the most extensive scooter dealerships in the US. It comes close to matching the Japanese Big 4 in support and service.
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