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No step by step this time!! Basically you take your 12mm socket with small extension and undo the drain plug. Drain and refill!

I did figure out a way to know how much oil to put back in it though!!

See picture below!! Click on them to enlarge!!




Sorry the second picture was kinda blurry!! Needless to say, you have to go buy an iced venti carmel maciato(sp) or any other iced venti drink from Starbucks!!! Drain you oil into the cup and see where it goes up to!!! In my case it went to the first line from the bottom.

Note: When I first started to change the final drive oil I actually drained it into the empty oil container from the engine oil change!! Then I realized, being blonde, I couldn't figure out how to tell how much of the new oil to add, because the old one is almost empty and the new one is full!! Confusing huh?! Anyway I ended up pooring the old oil back out of the used bottle into the Starbucks cup. Then I dumped it out of the cup, cleaned the cup and added new oil to the line where the old oil came to!! I did add a tad more to make up for the old oil that did not drain out my origina planned old oil bottle trick!!

Anyway if you drain the old oil into a clear container, make a mark, then dump and refill with new oil, it takes out the guess work!!!!
 

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You have motivated me! Thanks again. :wink:
 

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myhrdly said:
Needless to say, you have to go buy an iced venti carmel maciato(sp) or any other iced venti drink from Starbucks!!! Drain you oil into the cup and see where it goes up to!!! In my case it went to the first line from the bottom.
If someone has the faster, Galaxy Blue Majesty, what flavour Starbucks should they buy?? :lol: 8)
 

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If someone has the faster, Galaxy Blue Majesty, what flavour Starbucks should they buy?? :lol: 8)
Just ask for an extra shot!!!!! :toothy10:
 

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Does the final drive oil look grey as compared to the engine oil? Does it still use the same SAE10W30?

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Yes, it takes the 10/30!!!

If I remember right, it was more of a brown color! It's been a while though!

Kim
 

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:idea: :idea: try looking in the manuel, it will tell you exactly how much oil to put in. :shock: :shock: ....not rocket science
 

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Using the 'put back in what you drain out' method results in my replacing 300ml of oil when changing the final gear oil. I know this because the oil bottle I use has a sort of translucent scale on it and I saw that it held exactly 500ml before I started and only 200ml left when I was finished.

I emptied the dirty final gear oil into a plastic drinking cup, and filled an identical plastic drinking cup up to the same level with brand new oil.

Whereas the owner's manual calls for 250ml of final gear oil for a drain/refill, I removed (and replaced) 300ml.

Either it was overfilled last time, the oil has had babies, or there's some sort of oil sharing going on between the engine oil and the final gear oil? Is that possible?
 

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guys (and gals :)) ... I was motivated by Kim to save money and do the first service myself! I went to NAPA and picked up the filter (part # PS4949) and then went to the dealership to pick up oil...fortunately they had AMSOIL 20w 50 (same viscosity as Yamalube). Then I asked how Much oil to add to the engine and tranny. He looks at me and kinda smirks... He says "the manual tells you" ... sure nuff... page 6-16 w/out filter: 1.5Liter or 1.59USqt and with filter 1.7Liter or 1.8USqt. Tranny oil is .25L or .26USqt. The torque specifications for oil filter element cover bolt is 7.2 ftlb, Engine oil drain bolt and Final tranny oil dran bolt are both 14.5 ftlb check pages 6-16 to 6-18 in the owner's manual to verify these yourselves.
 

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myhrdly said:
Note: When I first started to change the final drive oil I actually drained it into the empty oil container from the engine oil change!! . . . .

Anyway if you drain the old oil into a clear container, make a mark, then dump and refill with new oil, it takes out the guess work!!!!
This is the easiest way to measure it.
 

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I put in 0.25 liters (or 0.26 quarts). I figure the owners manual is more likely to be correct than the dealership, since the employees were probably trying to get it put together as quickly as possible.

Quick question: Does anyone recommend using loctite on the drain bolts (final drive or engine) or filter bolts (engine)? I haven't been, but was wondering. I have been using a torque wrench, and think that is sufficent, but just wanted to ask.
 

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It would seem to me that if the oil was low when you change it, it would not be a good idea to measure the drained oil and put that amount back in. The owners manual says check it before each ride, so they must plan on it being visible since the fill cap has no dipstick. What gives?
 

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scootee said:
The owners manual says check it before each ride, so they must plan on it being visible since the fill cap has no dipstick. What gives?
Owner's Manual said:
The final transmission case must be checked for oil leakage before each ride.
I believe they mean to look at the ground under the case, the tire next to the case, and the case itself to see if there is any oil visible. If there is, then either the case wasn't cleaned after the last change, or there is a leak.
 

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Yeah that's one that's been bugging me for a while, how do you check the amount of Final Drive Oil without a dipstick?
 

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Other scooters I have owned were always filled to the top of the fill hole. I notice what appears to be a vent hose up high on the trans case, which would allow ample air space to fill to this point. Could it be overfilled?
Would a dealer know any more about this than what we read in our owners manual?
 

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I put .25 quarts in... actually it works out since I buy 2 qts oil, put 1.75qt in the engine after the filter change, and the rest in the final drive case (after draining)
 

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Thanks to everyone for all the great instructions. Is the "final drive oil" also referred to as the transmission oil? Looks like they are the same. The OM refers to this as transmission oil. Just checking.

I will hopefully get to my first oil change this week. Thanks to you all for the step by step. :D
 

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Yup, the final drive oil is called "transmission oil" in the manual although it's not really part of the transmission - go figure. If you've never done your own mechanical work changing the oil and final drive oil are easy enough for a beginner to do and saves you $$$
Recycle your used oil......
 
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