Malossi Clutch and Bell

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gruntled

· #3 · Sep 27, 2021

For what purpose? That costs quite a bit, especially if you have it done by someone else. I did it but because mine needed it & it was cheaper than the &^%$% Yamaha parts. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

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macanudo

Discussion Starter · #4 · Sep 27, 2021

gruntled said:
For what purpose? That costs quite a bit, especially if you have it done by someone else. I did it but because mine needed it & it was cheaper than the &^%$% Yamaha parts. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

Thank you for the reply!

The only reason is to get away from the three clutch system and jerkiness on starts. I also hear a ding sound on idle on the clutch area, is that normal? As for the labor I can easily do that.

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gruntled

· #5 · Sep 28, 2021 (Edited)

I'm 81 years old & about all I can do anymore is put the gas in. When I needed the new clutch the dealer wanted over $1500. I got it done much cheaper than that but the guy didn't properly tighten the nut. When it failed it did a lot of damage & when i went back to him I discovered he had recently been killed in a motorcycle accident. I had another guy replace the damage & he charged even less & did it right. I have been riding since 1954 & of course I did most of the work myself for most of that time. I finally had to give up my Harley a couple of years ago when my knee got so bad I had a hard time shifting or even throwing my leg over the bike. I had also had a Majesty since 2005 & it had over 100,000 miles on it when I finally sold it. Now I have been looking for a new scooter but they are hard to find they say because of Covid. For now all I have is an electric bicycle. Actually I have two electric bikes but the twenty year old one I can't ride anymore. Knee problem again, you have to pedal that one, the frame size is too high, the motor too week & the battery too weak & heavy. The new one even folds up & is much easier to pedal when I want to.

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macanudo

Discussion Starter · #6 · Sep 28, 2021

Don't tell me you have a Lectric?

gruntled said:
I'm 81 years old & about all I can do anymore is put the gas in. When I needed the new clutch the dealer wanted over $1500. I got it done much cheaper than that but the guy didn't properly tighten the nut. When it failed it did a lot of damage & when i went back to him I discovered he had recently been killed in a motorcycle accident. I had another guy replace the damage & he charged even less & did it right. I have been riding since 1954 & of course I did most of the work myself for most of that time. I finally had to give up my Harley a couple of years ago when my knee got so bad I had a hard time shifting or even throwing my leg over the bike. I had also had a Majesty since 2005 & it had over 100,000 miles on it when I finally sold it. Now I have been looking for a new scooter but they are hard to find they say because of Covid. For now all I have is an electric bicycle. Actually I have two electric bikes but the twenty year old one I can't ride anymore. Knee problem again, you have to pedal that one, the frame size is too high, the motor too week & the battery too weak & heavy. The new one even folds up & is much easier to pedal when I want to.

Thanks for the reply.

Don't tell me you have a Lectric!? I have a Lectric and I love it!

I got my Majesty at an auction the ticket said bad fuel pump and fuel tank needs clean. Turn out to be the injector, for some reason it wasn't moving I remove it clean it and triggered with a 12v battery It came back alive put it back on and fired right up. For the fuel tank I ran the pump until all the water came out (1/2qt in it) added new gas and shes been running great.

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gruntled

· #7 · Sep 29, 2021

My old one is a Charger & it is hard to find info on because you will get so many hits for chargers. The new one is a Rebel. (See how that fits with the flag above my name.)

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beatrizkhole

· #8 · Oct 1, 2021

Malossi is a genuine Italian brand. Stiffer clutch springs, meatier pads, and a better bell will all improve your bike's take-off grip. Glossy bells and cltuches are prone to slipping. If your bell has a glossy mirror-like surface and slick-surfaced pads, it's time to upgrade https://mobilehealthdata.com/thromboangitis-obliterans-buerger-disease/.

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minimac

· #9 · Oct 22, 2021

The old style 3 pad clutches were upgraded by the factory in 2007 or 2008 to a five pad setup. If you have a 3 pad and it's a 2009, something isn't right. The 5 pad setup works very well. I've had the Malossi variator-I bought it second hand but unused, but felt it wasn't worth the money I spent, even though it was deeply discounted. I got much better results by playing with the rollers and doing some clutch tuning with different springs.

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macanudo

Discussion Starter · #10 · Oct 25, 2021

minimac said:
The old style 3 pad clutches were upgraded by the factory in 2007 or 2008 to a five pad setup. If you have a 3 pad and it's a 2009, something isn't right. The 5 pad setup works very well. I've had the Malossi variator-I bought it second hand but unused, but felt it wasn't worth the money I spent, even though it was deeply discounted. I got much better results by playing with the rollers and doing some clutch tuning with different springs.

To be honest I haven't look in there but if you look Partzilla for the same bike and year it shows a 3 pad clutch.

Thank you!

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minimac

· #11 · Oct 26, 2021

Partzilla only copies and pastes. Open it up and look-or better yet do a search on this site-if they've archived stuff.

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macanudo

Discussion Starter · #12 · Oct 26, 2021

minimac said:
Partzilla only copies and pastes. Open it up and look-or better yet do a search on this site-if they've archived stuff.
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European market was upgraded to 5 pad clutch and abs. Here in the US NOTHING

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minimac

· #13 · Oct 27, 2021

Believe what you want...There were some that made their way here. I upgraded my '06 Majesty clutch with pads and bell from a '08 model that was wrecked. The Copart in Buffalo,NY had the bike and I watched them pull the parts. I reported when I upgraded on this site, but it was years ago.

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Larry230

· #14 · 8 mo ago

minimac said:
The old style 3 pad clutches were upgraded by the factory in 2007 or 2008 to a five pad setup. If you have a 3 pad and it's a 2009, something isn't right. The 5 pad setup works very well. I've had the Malossi variator-I bought it second hand but unused, but felt it wasn't worth the money I spent, even though it was deeply discounted. I got much better results by playing with the rollers and doing some clutch tuning with different springs.

Hello,
what roller weight and what color springs made the good job, please?
Thank you.

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minimac

· #15 · 7 mo ago (Edited)

Larry230 said:
Hello,
what roller weight and what color springs made the good job, please?
Thank you.

I'm sorry to respond so late. I don't get on here very much anymore having sold my last Majesty quite awhile ago. You can mix two different weight rollers by alternating them. A lot of people liked the slightly better acceleration of 8-13gr rollers, but the price of that is a diminished top end.Since I did a lot of interstate riding, that didn't work for me.Stock is 8-15gram rollers. I ended up with 4-12gram and 4-16 gram rollers, which equaled the total weight of 8-14s.It gave me just a little better acceleration, strong mid-range and didn't lose much on the top end. I changed to a White contra spring which worked well with the rollers I used. I forgot what color the shoe springs were, but they may have been the yellow ones. You might want to pull the clutch sheaves apart. It's a pain and time consuming, but there may be worn parts inside-not to mention any grease there is probably 15 years old or better.

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SuperPanda

· #16 · 6 mo ago (Edited)

Mixing rollers is a great way to destroy your variator. What it does is cause the pressure to be uneven and the center bushing breaks away from the aluminum over time. Any other tuning tips?

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